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Barok van Zieks ([personal profile] winebar) wrote in [community profile] crescentview2023-01-17 10:01 pm

Town Hall Meeting The Second

WHO: Everyone willing
WHAT: van Zieks trying to catherd, again, in order to Establish Law & Order.
WHEN: Sometime in the Summer between the various events.
WHERE: the forest, outside van Zieks' farm.
WARNINGS: chaos mostly, more will be added if needed.

[A week or so after the chaos of Hot or Not, each farm will recieve another missive from Barry Z himself, chief buzzkill, who clearly learned nothing from how things went last time. It reads as such;]

To All Parties Brought to the Island by the Harvest Goddess,

Tomorrow at 11AM sharp, please arrive at the location indicated on the map shown of the reverse of this document. The topic of discussion on the table is the potential establishment of some form of social contract and body of law. As before, I cannot force attendance, however, I would again hope everyone sees the benefit in being involved in this discussion.

Sincerely,
Lord Barok van Zieks, Esquire


[And again as before, there's a map on the back. This time leading one to van Zieks' residence, an orderly forest farm with a nice stable currently housing the horse van Zieks rode in on to make himself the boss of things, apparently.

At the time of the meeting, there are two tables that were clearly brought out from inside. There are... snacks? Van Zieks is not a chef, you will have these strawberries and fried mushrooms and you'll like it, I guess. There was an attempt. Van Zieks himself is still dressing in his less fancy- but still absurd for this weather- three piece suit.]


Than you all for coming. I understand that the topic I have put on the table may seem... needlessly dire to some, however, in the case that something does happen, it would be far better for us to already have a system in place. I do not think we currently require any sort of active police force, but rather that we should have some sort of agreed set of behavior in place, and then elected individuals to adjudicate any potential disagreements.

As far as a social contract, on Mr. Trahearne's advisement, it would follow thusly; [He pulls out another paper to read from.]
- Do not cause unsolicited physical harm to one other.
- Do not harm or otherwise disrupt another person's farm.
- Do not damage, destroy, or unlawfully take possession of another person's property.
- Do not vandalize or otherwise disrupt communal spaces for us or the townspeople.
- Do not behave in such a manner that would elicit broad reprisal against the group as a whole from the townspeople or the goddess.

If anyone has any other thoughts, feel free to share them. I feel that this is basic enough that even those of you more prone to... rebellion can agree to it.

The second matter is to discuss how to handle if someone does break these rules. While I have made clear before my prior experience with the law, I understand that a system like this can only function if there is trust in those enforcing it. Thus I think that the authority should be given to whoever the group as a whole feels most comfortable entrusting it to. So I open the floor to nominations for that responsibility.

Finally, I'd like to make clear why this is necessary. I have spoken to the goddess, and as long as it does not directly interfere with her and her means, she has no intent of intervening if something were to happen to one of us. We are not her "people," the residents of the town are. Therefore, it is imperative that we work together to protect ourselves.

[And now he will step back and hope that some productive discussion happens.]
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[personal profile] tot 2023-01-18 09:40 pm (UTC)(link)
[ huh.

well. okay.
]

I've only heard them in stories. I know that we're all from different worlds but this is still shocking.
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[personal profile] yourlenore 2023-01-19 02:48 am (UTC)(link)
It's quite fascinating to me to hear stories of lands without them! What is your world ruled by, if anything? Gods? Men? Spirits?
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[personal profile] tot 2023-01-20 08:18 am (UTC)(link)
[ you know, uta has never thought about it on the flip side so this is very interesting experience for her. she'll have to mull over the options presented and think about what she has learned about her world. ]

Men? [ hmm. no. ] People who think of themselves as gods..?

[ if she sounds uncertain its because she is. ]
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[personal profile] yourlenore 2023-01-20 09:03 am (UTC)(link)
( Oh, that's a fun one... The hubris of men. )

Curious. And are these lands peaceful ones, or worse for these prideful men?
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[personal profile] tot 2023-01-20 09:42 am (UTC)(link)
[ funny this...

uta won't beat around the bush with this and despite her and the lack of disgust in her voice, the message should read loud and clear.
]

It depends on who is asking and who the audience is. I would say that most consider them despicable, cruel people worthy of their hate, but they are also too afraid to stand up against them.
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[personal profile] yourlenore 2023-01-21 06:56 am (UTC)(link)
Hmmmm. That sounds much like the rulers in my home. Perhaps there is something to be said about the proclivity of those who rule - or else, why would there not more often be kind rulers?
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[personal profile] tot 2023-01-22 11:16 am (UTC)(link)
Maybe; there's likely some truth in that.

[ honestly, uta rather focus on the kind rulers than the cruel ones however it's not as though she is against taking a closer look at those who stand at the top. ]

Speaking from my world, there was a book that I read that wrote about the history of the ruling families. Inside it wrote of that all of the current kingdoms can trace their ancestry back to an original twelve that established the first kingdoms.

Yet while most have gone and become the rulers we are more familiar with, there was one family that defied the rest in their methods and beliefs.